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17 March 2003 @ 10:18 am
Something to think about  
"Why would you break a promise made to yourself when you would never break a promise made to others?"

-the redhead-
Paladinpaladin3 on March 17th, 2003 09:43 am (UTC)
Because your external promises are about relationships and trust and integrity...your internal ones are about self-control...

Of course, philosophically, a promise should hold true regardless...but maybe a promise requires consideration...something in return...i.e. friendship or love...

-the redhead-theredhead on March 17th, 2003 10:04 am (UTC)
but maybe a promise requires consideration...something in return...i.e. friendship or love...

Yes and no. Yes, there *should* be some consideration in return. Often there is not, but I keep those promises anyways. So keeping promises to other people has more to do with myself than with whether I think I'm going to even get a 'thank you' in return. I'd pass out from holding my breath if I waited...

-the redhead-
Paladinpaladin3 on March 17th, 2003 10:20 am (UTC)
Well, I'd say thank you. :-) I appreciate my friends.

But, upon reflection, I think that you're at least partly right. Promises are more about your own integrity. But that integrity is externally measured when you promise someone...

Consideration, of course, is part of the legal theory of contract which spilled over into my original answer. But I still think there is something to the interpersonal nature of a promise. I'd doubt I could give my word to myself...where as if I say "I give you my word" on something that is my bond and it has meaning to you...and even more meaning to me...regardless of whether you care what I said.

Liquid Tension Movementperspicuity on March 17th, 2003 10:19 am (UTC)
if promises are contracts, then i believe they are

if the other party agrees, well then.
and if you can't argue with yourself... well then :>

now, a vow is another matter i think, i'm not so sure
those can be gotten out of, unless there were conditions
built in originally (like a vow of chastity until marriage)

Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat.melanie on March 17th, 2003 11:09 am (UTC)
perhaps it has to do with priorities...putting others before self?
cirusgta3cirus on March 17th, 2003 12:14 pm (UTC)
i think in my case i care more for others then myself.. also there are so many relationship parts to promises to others while yourself all you have to answer to is you..

Sylver Wolfsylverwolf on March 23rd, 2003 02:54 pm (UTC)
Because no one else knows what you promise to yourself. Your reputation, friendships, business relations are not on the line. As people've said, and I agree, it's more about selfcontrol, and arguing with yourself that makes it easier.